LOVE

[CIVILISON]

Peace,

What does "Love" entail for you?

Recently, I have been blessed with the opportunity to knowledge "Love" on a more abstract level. I refer to the Kemetic deity/concept of MAAT which states that love is giving and seeking nothing in return. Some confuse love with romantic feeling/emotions or affection or even parental relations.

Do onto other as you would do onto yourself as bringing infliction upon others is the same as inflicting self. Thereby, to love others fundamentally means to love self. This is not to be confused with the “give the other cheek” analogy.

Looking forward to the forthcoming inputs.

In Peace,

I-Son

[OBA]

PEACE I-SON

According to the 5% definition Love is Supreme
Understanding between a man and a woman. I
personally see love in the actions of a person and
not just them saying it. In my previous relationship
of 3 years, I can count on one hand how often I TOLD
my ex that I love her(this is not why we broke up ).
She knew from the things I had done for her as well
as how I treated her.

I'm not one that loves a person easily b/c for me
with love comes trust. I don't love a person that I can't
trust.

PEACE

[Os3y3ris]

According to the 5% definition Love is Supreme
Understanding between a man and a woman.

Is that all? LOL.

Love is to me, the willingness to sacrafice for others, wheoevr they may be.

[SAMURAI36]

Don't underestimate that definition, O.....I realize that its profundity can be loss amidst its simplicity, but you'd be surprised as to how many people the world over miss the truest understanding of LOVE, and operate off of false notions as a result.

To understand something is to become intrinsically connected to/with it.

SUPREME UNDERSTANDING is to become one with a thing, on both the highest and deepest levels....

LOVE is then not a "verb" (something that one does), but rather a state of x-sistence.

Instead of adopting this understanding, people operate off of their "feelings", all of which usually follow a pathology of faulty thinking.

The things the people attach themselves to emotionally (e.g. "LOVE") are most often things that they have no business fucking with.

It's the same psychoses, as people eating food for the benefit of the TASTE, instead of its nutritional value.

Thus, LOVE should be something that you GROW into, intead of something you "FALL" into.

When a person is "falling" (literally or figuratively), they have little to no control over what happens to them, especially perceptually.

However, the growth process on any level is something that is easily catalogued, guided and directed during all stages.

Anything that is fallen "into", can be fallen out of......

However, the same cannot be said of "GROWTH"......At the age of 25, are you somehow going to revert back to pre-adolescence?

People's ideas about love, diet, society, etc are so twisted, that they can't see the forest for the trees.

The paths of human mental, emotional, and spiritual developments are easily corrected, provided that people be willing to acknowledge and correct many of the false notions that they hold fast to, and adopt the correct ones.

The first step should begin with the premise of LOVE, especially, as CIVIL pointed out, is the basis of MA'AT, or the axis of the universe.

PEACE

[Healthy Merking]

Yo PEACE everybody

strangely enough

the movie THE MATRIX dealt with 'love' very well

it was part 3 if i remember correctly...

those movies should not be underestimated

PEACE

I LOVE YOU

[CIVILISON]

DAMN!, Lord!

Let the Sun shine...

In Peace!

[Os3y3ris]

"Supreme understanding" is rather vauge, but not my issue. My issue is the restriction of between men and women. Men can love eachother, and no, I don't mean homosexuality. I don't limit my love to women. That shows the limited focus of sexuality (otherwise why particularly woman?) and not an acceptance of love on many different levels and in many different ways. It doesn't particularly SAY that they mean sexual love, but that restriction is rather odd especially as sex is the only area is where that is relevant.

[SAMURAI36]

PEACE O:

"Supreme understanding" is rather vauge, but not my issue.

I'm curious as to how it continues to be vague to you, despite the definitions I conveyed? And on the contrary; it will always continue to be an issue (for you and the rest of the world), so long as the nuance of the concept is amiss.

Speaking of which:

My issue is the restriction of between men and women. Men can love eachother, and no, I don't mean homosexuality. I don't limit my love to women. That shows the limited focus of sexuality (otherwise why particularly woman?) and not an acceptance of love on many different levels and in many different ways. It doesn't particularly SAY that they mean sexual love, but that restriction is rather odd especially as sex is the only area is where that is relevant.

The questions you pose here, and that the rest of society as a whole poses, are the very foundation of that lack of understanding.

The act of sex, and all that it entails has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the concept of love.

In fact, that is the issue with "HOMO-SEXUALITY", because the sexual aspect is underlined in the very nomer used, yet all that is considered is the emotional attraction, one having nothing to do with the other.

PEACE

[Os3y3ris]

Let me cut to the chase. Why is "between a man and woman" tacked on? The rest is of no concern to me at all.

[contrastiktion]

SAMURAI7ASSASSIN said:

The act of sex, and all that it entails has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the concept of love.

the act of sex has EVERYTHING to do w/ understanding... SUPREME or otherwhise

i agree w/ O that sacrafice is one of the main manifestations of love

[Knowledge Supreme]

P.E.A.C.E to the Cradle

If then, as O has implied, love is not restricted to the love between a man and a woman, and indeed it is possible to love 2, 3 etc. people, things at the same time, being that love is the Supreme Understanding of the person/thing, what then should be the basis of a relationship between Husband and Wife? Or, if not basis, then the thing that sets the relationship apart from another relationship where love is involved.

SHEM HOTEP

[Os3y3ris]

Love IS the basis of that relationship but it is not restricted to that context. What differentiates that relationship from other loving relationships is the level of sacrifice required to maintain it and the fact that you have in mind an eternal goal. You want the clan to continue forever, while all other ventures may fade away. However, I can honestly say that I love my parents. I love my family. I love my friends. I love life. I love my pride. Any one of those things, I'd give up EVERYTHING to build and to maintain and you can't tell me that's not love. There's no sexual element, as there is between husband and wife, but everything else is there. Maybe the degrees differ, but the love is there.

[Os3y3ris]

To simplify things, the additional element in a male/female relationship that is absent in a platonic relationship is SEX.

[SAMURAI36]

Os3y3ris said:

To simplify things, the additional element in a male/female relationship that is absent in a platonic relationship is SEX.

Nope, that's not totally correct.

There is more that is missing from how love is x-pressed than just sex.

Since you are still connected to the actions of how "LOVE" is x-pressed, then the conduct of how one acts in the presence of those that they "love" are going to be different.

Will you talk to your mother the same way that you talk to your wife? To your sister the same way that you talk to your best friend?

What if the lines are blurred for each person, like they are in other cultures?

That's why I keep stating that you are missing the obvious, which lies in the form of that very simplistic definition.

LOVE is not what you do, it's what you ARE.

[tRuUwIsDoM84]

PEace,
Sam 7 just wanted to comment on what you said about falling and growth of love, dat shit is real, I agree with you, its very well spoken, but pertaining to this thread, love comes all different forms sacrifice is one of the true aspects of love yet I have to agree with Sam dat you can't blur love, it takes a different form for each thing or person that you love, yes it might be pride or it might be your girl or man, but levels of love can't be blurred into just one,
peace