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Post by Dr. D-Resperatation on Mar 28, 2009 14:17:04 GMT -5
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Post by Dr. D-Resperatation on Mar 28, 2009 14:25:47 GMT -5
I am currently reading the first one, THE END OF DAYS, and would need to have more information and specialization to coraborate the claims, but basicaly it espouses the view that ancient gods of mytholgies were just beings from other planets who lived long lives, and that their fighing led to worlds religions, and further, that the future will mirror the past relative to these fueds.
Documentos De Takenouchi is a spanish version of a book I am sure they have in English that claims Jesus went to Japan after he was crucified and resurected, and that although the documents supporting these claims have been destroyed in bombs, there are coppies. Again I cant really say this book is proof of such facts, but it is interesting, and I dont usually rule things out until i fully understand them.
Forbiden History, I am currently reading, and it has many articles that exand on the ideas that among other things,
THe Ice Age is a lie
Evalution is a lie
There was an ancient global culture that was somehow destroyed
There is evidence that man once walked with dinosours.
And Dark Mission is a great book that talks about how NASA lies to the people and is very involved in secret societies, and how there are pryimids monuments and cities on mars and the moon.
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Post by CIVILISON on Mar 28, 2009 16:09:10 GMT -5
Although I don't have info on all of the works you mentioned I can say this. First off It's it good to have an open mind and be tolerant to various theories and ideologies and it's important to draw up own understanding of all sciences. Secondly there is no doubt that ancient Sumer was an original civilization with highly developed sciences like astrology, mathematics, spirituality and so forth. We know the Sumerians flourished along the side of the Egyptian people and that we find similarities in their sciences. I've done some research on Zecharia Sitchin's work and personally it doesn't go fully with me. Main reason is that I noticed a lot scholars and so called experts on these topics seem like they are looking for the most deepest, mind boggling, abstract, mystic concept that they conjure in their minds when they come in contact with this science that the people will be fond of but fail to communicate some of the simplicity and practicality of the religions and spiritual systems of the ancient people. I believe that is more beneficial to Man than the Annunaki theory. I don't like that ancient Sumer is being highly mystified associated with these aliens that come down and bless Man with their scientific and philosophic knowledge. I think it puts the ancients in a bad light it just seems way too unnatural for me and while I do not reject the idea of other life in this universe. Zecharia Setchin's theories really blew up a lot of people always talk about Niburu and the Annunaki and while they highly concentrate on that they seem to overlook all the other simple spiritual ideologies and practices that these societies were teaching and living. I'm not an expert on Sumer but that is my opinion on this author's work.
As for the other books seems I def agree with what you were saying about NASA, it's just an extension of the aristocratic arm, they manipulate science in the way they want. I believe evolution to be a hard fact of life I don't believe man came from chimpanzees there is no conclusive evidence that leads man to chimpanzses. Why do people settle for the idea that we came from some animal? The ancient global culture i think about that often and it def is possible even before Sumer and Kamit and Indus Kush and South American societies there could have been civilized people already walking the planet way before and the actual records of their existence have been simply lost or taken by the earth. I know there is cave drawing and artificats that date back to 15000 BC but I haven't come across any solid info that there were big civilized societies waaay back in the day but that doesn't mean there weren't.
Nonetheless it's always good to research! Let us know how your studies unfold in regards to this topic.
PEACE
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Post by Dr. D-Resperatation on Mar 28, 2009 21:22:23 GMT -5
Yeah, the thing that mainly turns me off of Stichen's work is that he expects ancient technology and alien technology to be similar to the kind we have now. For example, he talks about nuclear bombs back then, and that is kind of perposteous, unless you think maby we got our technology from them, or technology grow naturually in a similar patern, but those are both big jumps.
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Post by CIVILISON on Mar 29, 2009 14:22:14 GMT -5
Yeah I hear you there are a few elements in his works that are a little off. As far as the technology that Sumer and Kamit had I am more inclined to think that it was man's own creation as an extraction of their sciences that were translated physically from nature! To me it is natural that when original man walked this earth the first thing they would study and observe would be nature, the heavens and heavenly bodies, stars, sky movements etc. because there were not as many prominent objects around to be polluting us and reflect our focus of consciousness to be wasting energy on unneeded mental reasonings.
Which leads me to this question to you because I am interested to see what other relevant things Sitchin incorporated into his work? Does he brake down some of their philosophy, culture, religion, finances and regular customs from an anthropologic view that are not related to all that crazy Annunaki stuff?
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Post by Dr. D-Resperatation on Mar 31, 2009 15:36:45 GMT -5
As far as I have gotten into the book, it doesnt get into that shit.
The book kind of lost my interest, as of now.
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Post by CIVILISON on Apr 1, 2009 16:35:37 GMT -5
... that's too bad. Ha no doubt I hear you PEACE!
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Post by Dr. D-Resperatation on Apr 2, 2009 19:03:33 GMT -5
if it talked about the shit you mentioned i def. would still be reading it.
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Post by Heavym3ntal on Apr 4, 2009 11:46:17 GMT -5
Yes Sitchens work does take away from man being the supreme being, accomplising in the spiritual level rising mentally. The talk about aliens takes away from mans ancient power. Many of the things in Stichens work could be diss-info, like nibiru. Other ancient societies never talked/mentioned this planet.
Hoaglands views on the bases built on other planets is true. Man has been all over the universe, this is what they have found when they went to the moon. It all existed b4, that everything is a cycle and has order. Matter has always existed, theres no begining or end.
peace
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Post by Longevity on Apr 8, 2009 15:41:08 GMT -5
Yea I got into Zack when i first got knowledge on my previous level in about '99. It's deep in it own right and seemingly bullshit in it's own right too. Looking at it from different angles you can cee it in many ways. I don't bother with it right now because it seems like a wild/golden goose chase. Something to take your mind off the man behind the curtin, nawmean.
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Post by Longevity on Jun 20, 2009 9:09:05 GMT -5
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Post by SAMURAI36 on Jun 27, 2009 15:43:05 GMT -5
PEACE: This is an excellent discussion, allow me to Add-On: All of what has been stated here, not only mirrors how I feel about Sitchin's work almost exactly (barely finished 12th Planet, couldn't get thru the second one I picked up, forgot the name of it), but this also eludes to what I have been expounding on in my Bible threads as of late. Alot of Sitchin's theories are right along the lines of what DR York, Scientology, David Icke, etc have been talking about. Ironically, none of these people ever talk about the wisdom, strength and beauty of humanity. Not to mention, there's always a hint of underlined racism in their works. I'm good on that. As far as Paradigm changing books, it doesn't get any greater than this:  Most of you know this work, so no need to explain it. |
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Post by CIVILISON on Jun 28, 2009 0:29:50 GMT -5
^ the best thing that i noticed about the kamitic tree of life is that it can serve as a lay out for all sciences in life whether physical or intangible.
from my perspective it drew a mental map for me where i could check everything i was studying and relate it to get my solutions.
a truly ingenious work, very beneficial for those who take it serious... also i can correspond it with a lot of other true esoteric systems and realize man from all corners of the earth at some point realized the same thing. that must have been something - to experience that universality. but thats something else...
PEACE
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Post by Os3y3ris on Jul 3, 2009 0:57:34 GMT -5
Godel, Escher, Bach
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Post by Longevity on Jul 3, 2009 1:29:35 GMT -5
My God the dead has a risen - Old guy from colour purple Great to cee you back brother ;D |
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