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Post by Longevity on Jul 14, 2009 23:49:13 GMT -5
How many of us here know about and are moving towards making this step in life.
To me this is one of the most important steps in knowledge of self but no one talks about it or shows the process with out trying to re-enslave you.
We can have all the knowledge, wisdom, and understanding in the universal but if we don't have true freedom through sovereignty then we have know power what so ever.
This is one of the things that I want to bring to the cradle and bring to light: Gaining sovereignty.
No disrespect but I think this topic holds more presidence then talking about a bum ass book called the Bible...
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Post by Healthy Merking on Jul 15, 2009 7:08:45 GMT -5
excellent topic
i see this as something psychological to a large degree
it eventually simply becomes a decision you make which is reinforced by your ways and actions
and just like all things in life - it is difficult to 'establish' sovereignty - but once youve been at it some time - it is simply natural and not too difficult to keep reinforced
there are definitely foundations to 'sovereignty' that make it more likely or more possible even during these strange days
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Post by SAMURAI36 on Jul 15, 2009 14:23:45 GMT -5
LOL, I do agree that this is more relevant than talking about the Bible.
I believe that LONGEVITY is speaking of the renouncing citizenship and becoming "Sovereign".
I think that the concept of renouncing citizenship is a good thing, however it's not as easy and simple as it's often portrayed, and there are some terrible loopholes in the premise.
I've seen these loopholes come back to bite people. It must be understood that the practice of Sovereignty was created by the very people that we would seek emancipation from.
I'll post more info about this, as this thread progresses.
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Post by Healthy Merking on Jul 15, 2009 16:04:03 GMT -5
LOL, I do agree that this is more relevant than talking about the Bible. I believe that LONGEVITY is speaking of the renouncing citizenship and becoming "Sovereign". I think that the concept of renouncing citizenship is a good thing, however it's not as easy and simple as it's often portrayed, and there are some terrible loopholes in the premise. I've seen these loopholes come back to bite people. It must be understood that the practice of Sovereignty was created by the very people that we would seek emancipation from. I'll post more info about this, as this thread progresses. ahh interesting - i was / am not even aware of this as a legal option my kneejerk reaction is this: if it requires administration and paperwork, i want no part of it that ish is the biggest time waster of civilization my views on this tie in greatly with my perspective on the name-changing stuff Peace |
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Post by Longevity on Jul 15, 2009 16:54:31 GMT -5
Thanks Shah. That is what I was talking about. Now your observation about the process of becoming Sovereign is made up by the same people that takes our Sovereignty is interesting. I would like to here more about that.
LHX yes is does incorporate paperwork. B.u.t., as I'm learning that is the way of the world. The lectures that I've listened to and research I've found shows that contracts are more binding and moving then the gun. Also to say that you want no part of it because of Admin and paperwork isn't the best view point either. Think about it: if you still use your Social Security number, Birth Certificate, have and renew your driver's license/license plate, join a church or any other religious, spiritual or political organization were the ask for your personal info i.e. SSN, etc then your still apart of the whole admin/paperwork process but just from another angle.
Although it is very dangerous it is very compelling to know that learning their papertrail can truely set you free. I don't like that fact of knowing that there are rules that apply to one set of people and one that apply to another and the only thing that seperates those people is documents. That a nations debt is placed on it's population in such a way that if they wanted cash in on that debt that we can become involuntary servants again and can't do any thing about it. That I'm not suppose to have to pay for anything that's apart of my basic needs. That I'm governed by a system that can do what ever it wants to me, that can take my children away from, that tells me in it's own marriage licenses that my wife really isn't my wife. Man that list goes on and for me it really seems worth it.
Shah. So how do you view the Moors and some of their teachings? They perpetuate gaining Sovereignty, although I do know that through the Moorish Science Temple that your only taking your documented ownership from one system to the next. Meaning that the MST isn't really helping you gain your own Sovereignty but they are helping you become Sovereign under them in a way the your now held under their laws (rules and regulations).
LP&H
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Post by Healthy Merking on Jul 15, 2009 18:00:16 GMT -5
Thanks Shah. That is what I was talking about. Now your observation about the process of becoming Sovereign is made up by the same people that takes our Sovereignty is interesting. I would like to here more about that. LHX yes is does incorporate paperwork. B.u.t., as I'm learning that is the way of the world. The lectures that I've listened to and research I've found shows that contracts are more binding and moving then the gun. Also to say that you want no part of it because of Admin and paperwork isn't the best view point either. Think about it: if you still use your Social Security number, Birth Certificate, have and renew your driver's license/license plate, join a church or any other religious, spiritual or political organization were the ask for your personal info i.e. SSN, etc then your still apart of the whole admin/paperwork process but just from another angle. Although it is very dangerous it is very compelling to know that learning their papertrail can truely set you free. I don't like that fact of knowing that there are rules that apply to one set of people and one that apply to another and the only thing that seperates those people is documents. That a nations debt is placed on it's population in such a way that if they wanted cash in on that debt that we can become involuntary servants again and can't do any thing about it. That I'm not suppose to have to pay for anything that's apart of my basic needs. That I'm governed by a system that can do what ever it wants to me, that can take my children away from, that tells me in it's own marriage licenses that my wife really isn't my wife. Man that list goes on and for me it really seems worth it. Shah. So how do you view the Moors and some of their teachings? They perpetuate gaining Sovereignty, although I do know that through the Moorish Science Temple that your only taking your documented ownership from one system to the next. Meaning that the MST isn't really helping you gain your own Sovereignty but they are helping you become Sovereign under them in a way the your now held under their laws (rules and regulations). LP&H something tells me that these negative things you are describing will not be out of anybody's life until the mechanism applying it is removed from the planet often the only way out of a mess is to plow thru the mess even if you arent technically a 'part' of the system, you will still get touched by it what would some examples of the benefits of sovereignty be? |
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Post by Longevity on Jul 15, 2009 20:55:10 GMT -5
what would some examples of the benefits of sovereignty be? ;D ahhh... I was waiting for that. Now that let's me have a reason to post some videos. I'll have to dig them up and it shouldn't take me long b.u.t., these videos can give you more examples than I could type out. Stay tuned... |
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Post by Longevity on Jul 21, 2009 12:15:07 GMT -5
This is a 6 part series
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Post by Longevity on Jul 21, 2009 12:32:52 GMT -5
This is part 1 of the second part of the series...
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Post by Longevity on Jul 21, 2009 12:36:10 GMT -5
This is a 5 part series
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Post by Longevity on Jul 21, 2009 12:38:18 GMT -5
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Post by Longevity on Jul 21, 2009 14:11:18 GMT -5
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Post by Longevity on Jul 21, 2009 14:12:22 GMT -5
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Post by Longevity on Jul 21, 2009 14:14:05 GMT -5
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Post by Longevity on Jul 21, 2009 15:41:08 GMT -5
There's a hell of a lot more videos and info than these. I'll post them up later in the future after the ones above have been digested a bit. So take the time to really watch them and listen to them if your interested. Then come back here and speak about what you've found and what you think about it all.
I have to dig up some of the websites I've found on this topic. There's a ton of books out there that go into detail, b.u.t. I'll have to dig those up as well.
Here's a summary of how I cee this. All of these systems (local, state, federal and global) are in place to keep mankind restricted and limited. The powers that be seek to cut off the god in mankind to keep mankind from controling his own path. B.u.t., they use the spark in man (peep the use of the Allspark in Transformers the movie) to use man's body as a vessel to create what they want to bring about (a totalian world system where all man is completely under their influence to such a degree that mankind truely functions as robots so that they can live in luxury... OR Use machines to do the work of man and then wipe most mankind out so it's only the few of them existing as a pure breed who still lives in luxury... OR They are secretly setting up for an unveiling of the truth as it should be and this is all part of a plan to bring it about slowly without having a mass slaughter). Every single thing that is around us is apart of The System and entertainment, media, sex and materialism are used to keep you asleep and distracted but serve as fillers or additives in a sense. Religion, education, gender, love for the State (Flags, Nationality, ethnic pride, etc) and money are used to conform, mold, control,etc to think and do as they (the powers that be) will b.u.t. by the peoples use of their own freewill and not being forced. Government, Kingdoms, Food, Science, Weather, Military, etc. is used to make the people do what they want them to by sheer force.
Knowledge of Self, which ever way you obtain it, is meant for you to first become awake and concious (mental awakening) and the continued research, self reflection and application should bring you to a pursuit to link true science and the truth through history to completely free your mind (inner god intelliegence) thus freeing it from all of the above restrictions through weeding them out by putting them up againt the truth of History and Science (this means the bible, koran, any government/religion/secret society, all bad foods and on and on).
There are a lot of us that reach this point right here....and then we're like... That's it! We're FREE! YEAH!
No that's not it. Not at all.
Ra Un Nefer Amen teachs that individual means Indivisable Duality. The Duality is mind and body and in order for them to function on this plane they must exist simultamiously with each other. The powers that be know that and have always known that. This is why they have kept the next part truely shrouded in secrecy: They can not let both parts of us free at the same time.
That being said. Those of us out here that free's the mind of god inside ourselves (not to be mistaken with mental awakening) must naturally complete the next step, which is to free our physical bodies from un/concious voluntary bondage. Now they can still kill you and imprison you but their laws do not apply to you one bit. You'll have the ability to move about on a whole new playing field. You are now truely free in both mind and body and you are now free to move about the cabin *smile*.
*disclaimer* This a summary (imagine how long the full version of how I cee things is) of how I cee things completely and how I view why I and any one else longs to wake up and be free. So if you ever wanted to know how I tick then there you have it. I'm not telling any one to do or believe any thing or to listen to me. B.u.t., I do feel that I've broken a lot of this shit down in a way that only a chosen few have been able to do. Not because I'm special and the rest of the world is not b.u.t., because I'm willing to keep my 3rd eye as open as possible and I'm willing to give myself to the universe(allah) itself.
Love, Peace and Happiness
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