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Post by contrastiktion on Mar 12, 2005 19:22:58 GMT -5
DID YOU KNOW — the original creator of THE MATRIX and THE TERMINATOR trilogeez was an Afrikan woman by the name of SOPHIA STEWART? The original script was called, of all thingz... THE THIRD EYE and was stolen by 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, the Wachowski Brothers and Joel Silver, who created first "The Terminator" series , then "The Matrix" trilogy !! This Queenz been fighting these plagiarizing pirates since 1999 and can use the assistance of the undaground to assist her in revealing the truth! Da Ghetto Tymz and ConsciousHiphop.com's own, M'Bwebe (fka Jehvon Buckner) was blessed with a 2 hour inner-view with this Queen and you can listen to Segment 1 (of 3) HERE or at ConsciousHiphop.com. Listen and hear how she created "The Third Eye," the concept behind it and how "The Terminator" and "The Matrix" trilogeez are carbon copies of her story; how it was stolen and who's behind this coverup! You can also read Kamou Voudon's piece, THE MOTHER OF THE MATRIX as well as look at exclusive photo's and documents of Sophia's proof, letterz of correspondence with Warner Bros. and copyright material at our MATRIX GALLERY daghettotymz.com/matrix/matrix.html
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Post by jonnygemini on Mar 13, 2005 13:50:40 GMT -5
I have heard this thru Variety and Premiere trade publications as well...She is about to/has received an enormous settlement but should obviously have received her proper cut of profits from the git... I believe Sister Stewart lives in SLC...nearby to you right, Tam?? marianbackstage.blogspot.com/2004/12/sophia-stewart-matrix-settlement-and.htmlwww.hotghettomess.com/not.htmI like the setup of the pods in the first Matrix...but the mish mash of Merogvignian(Holy Blood, Holy Grail) Gnostic and Occult(Tam pointed out what I hadn't noticed) elements made for poor sequels...L Wachowski is a cross dresser and I have also heard he's getting divorced to undergo a sex change like Tam said...Did not know abou their affiliation with Scarlet Woman lodge in Austin, Texas but coincidentally I met a hippie chick in the park this week who was telling me about the Goddess, Planetary and Sexual Magick rituals they did out there in Austin 94-96 timeframe...the site you linked to said the lodge founded in 93...most times I think people who just talk about OTO are faking it, but she seemed to know a little more than usual...Weird synchonicities again...Wash, bow and break out the orgonite to stay on the straight and narrow...
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 13, 2005 17:39:35 GMT -5
The Matrix wanted to be The Invisibles, but failed miserably.
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Post by contrastiktion on Mar 13, 2005 20:13:54 GMT -5
I'll check for that OTO in part 2.... i'm assuming it'll probably be in the freeway scene somewhere
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Post by contrastiktion on Mar 17, 2005 4:59:38 GMT -5
The Matrix wanted to be The Invisibles, but failed miserably. peace all i think sophia stewart did some sort of copyright in the mid 80's... 86 maybe? anyway... i've read the first 6 or 7 episodes of 'The Invisables'... and although i see a correlation between the two plot lines... i don't necessarily think either inspired the other... the stuff about cities and humans being a virus, and the protagonist who is having a wakining to reality which involves a jump from a building isn't enough for grant morrison to accuse the wichowski bro's of any plagurism i've read this site that makes the same argument (just now) www.quarterbin.net/recycleb/rb40.htmland although i've read only less then 1/3rd of the first volume... seems to me like the bum was more of a morpheus then king mob, although mob fits the steez of morpheus (or vice versa) LOL, but from what i've heard of the one wichowski bro, he probalby would have been attracted to this comic because of the invisible who is a trannie of some sort...LMAO so i gotta disagree w/ your statement O and good lookin into it more Tam... did you check the pdfs on that link i left?... i only listed to a portion of the interview w/ the lady... but those pdfs look informative peace
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 17, 2005 7:55:01 GMT -5
I'm not saying this woman didn't get jacked too, but I have to say that The Invisibles is definitely A primary source. Take a look at the basic arch of the story and you'll see it mets up in several places.
A. The alternate reality of sorts explored in the jump. B. The Messiah figure of the hero. C. Our hero gets the leader captured. Goes to save him and unlocks his true power for the win.
That's the first volume of the comics and the first movie of the Matrix. Even some of the exact shots are there, particularly during King Mob's resuce capture. Then compare the sequels to the overall theme of The Invisibles. Is the Merovingian not similar to Harlequinade? A malevolent secret society playing both sides? What about the supernatural as explicable agents of either side? Then there's the conclusion. Smith, who brought perfect conformity and Neo, who represented freedom, were equal. Invisible College and Outer Church were the same institution.
If you stripped down The Invisibles to its BASIC elements, you'd get The Matrix.
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 17, 2005 8:14:35 GMT -5
I do agree that King Mob is no Morpheus though. Completely different characters really. Morpheus can be made up of King Mob and Tom o' Bedlam, but not just one of them.
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Post by contrastiktion on Mar 17, 2005 9:24:15 GMT -5
when i finish w/ vol 1, i'll get back at you... but right now it seems to me that they are suggesting similar, yet contrasting theories on 'what is up'... there's no denying a resemblence, but i THINK the message is different... gotta finish tho
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 17, 2005 11:02:22 GMT -5
Which part are you at now?
Oh, you have no idea. Any theory you have is gonna be blown away by the end of Vol 3.
I'd say that the messages of the Matrix are all contained within The Invisibles, but not vice versa. You'll see.
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Post by contrastiktion on Mar 17, 2005 12:49:07 GMT -5
just about half-way through vol. 1 now... 11th or 12th episode
i'll be done w/ vol 1 by this afternoon @ this pace
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 17, 2005 13:39:50 GMT -5
Awesome.
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Post by contrastiktion on Mar 17, 2005 15:07:14 GMT -5
yea, im gonna chill off of it for a bit... i'm not really that big on comics but i was being pushed to check this series from a few directions... i definately plan on finishing vol 1 at LEAST (probably tonight or tomorrow) its a trip how the author claims the series is a "hyper sigil" ... and he experienced a buch of stuff that he wrote for king mob AFTER he wrote it... but yea... i wish the dude who drew the first few did the rest... the quality of the drawings took a nose dive after he left oh yea... it reminds me alot of the Illuminatus! trilogy... he ripped off his ideas from R.A.W.
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 17, 2005 17:51:04 GMT -5
The drawing never really caugt my attention so much as the excellent story.
As for the Illuminati thing, I haven't read that series. However, it doesn't hurt to point out the fact that it IS about the Illuminati. That's who the Invisibles are.
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 17, 2005 17:52:44 GMT -5
As for ripping ideas, he takes EVERY idea from some established mythology. The Illuminat Trilogy is a basis in conspiracy theory at this point and therefor a basis for The Invisibles. Clearly.
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Post by contrastiktion on Mar 18, 2005 12:43:15 GMT -5
nothing new under the sun eh? ;D
vol 1 done
vol 2 done DLing
but the tracker that i got them from dosen't have vol. 3... so if you know where i can obtain it... hookabrothaup
definatley more substinance then the matrix... can't argue that... still not convinced that it was the motivation for it... athough it wouldn't be a shock... i can't really discern the main thesis statement of the invisibles yet... but at this point i still think they're different.... great stuff tho... glad i'm taking the time to peep it... anything else by GM that you would reccommend?
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