More 'Taoism' LHX Style

[Healthy Merking]

PEACE

at the root
we have the source
where there is only one thing in the universe
basically: the universe
this is known as a lot of things:
THE WAY
ALLAH
GOD

then from this one thing we get two things:
you and everything that is not you
basically: you and your environment

from two things we get three things:
1. YOU
2. YOUR ENVIRONMENT
3. THE PRODUCT OF YOU REACTING WITH YOUR ENVIRONMENT

this is generally referred to as 'the trinity' and other things that have to do with threes

PLEASE ADD ON

PEACE TO THE GODS

also let me know if this stuff does not make sense

[johannes chimpo]

LIGHTHOUSE said:

PEACE

at the root
we have the source
where there is only one thing in the universe
basically: the universe
this is known as a lot of things:
THE WAY
ALLAH
GOD

then from this one thing we get two things:
you and everything that is not you
basically: you and your environment

from two things we get three things:
1. YOU
2. YOUR ENVIRONMENT
3. THE PRODUCT OF YOU REACTING WITH YOUR ENVIRONMENT

this is generally referred to as 'the trinity' and other things that have to do with threes

PLEASE ADD ON

PEACE TO THE GODS

also let me know if this stuff does not make sense

at the root we have the source, is ok...although i'm referring to that unnameable thing (tao) as the source of the root...

what doe you mean by at the root we have the source...are you equating the root and the source, or are you saying at the root we find the source (inluding that of the root)

also, check it: "where there is only one thing in the universe" makes it seem as though there is the universe, and one thing being in it

but you clarify your meaning by saying " basically: the universe:

so wait, you were referring to the tao/allah whatever as the source of the root which is the universe or are you calling the tao the universe itself as a unity?

for me, this is i how i see the progression of number

fundamentally, there is that which is one

that which is one, is characterized by nature of unity, and that means it is in the "realm" of the absolute. it grounds all "relative" being.

cuz check it out, the one that is, follows from the nature of that which is one, but also follows from the nature of the relative being. so the one that is, is actually infinite in number, has a beginning middle and end, has measure and quality of all sorts, and is basically what we might want to call "a thing"

and within those two compliments, the absolute and the relative, that which is one and the one that is, we have all number because the rest of number is already included in the one that is


for me the tao spoken of in lao tzu is that absolute unnamable, uncharacterizable, unexperiencable oneness that is beyond relative being but is thankfully available to our insight and intuition through the power of our minds

[Healthy Merking]

i like your style

i will respond shortly

PEACE

[SAMURAI36]

PEACE JOHNNY:

or are you saying at the root we find the source (inluding that of the root)

Yes, and well-put by the way.

[CIVILISON]

LIGHTHOUSE said:

PEACE
from two things we get three things:
1. YOU
2. YOUR ENVIRONMENT
3. THE PRODUCT OF YOU REACTING WITH YOUR ENVIRONMENT

Peace LIGHT,

How about:

1. Self (Ba, the Universal Soul)
2. You (your Ego and Spirit [one and the same?], Ka or individuated being)
3. The interactions between these two realms/faculties are the events that comprise something that we call life.

Can the Tao be equated to Maat or Amen?

At the ‘root’ exists NOTHING but perpetual and unlimited Divine Potential.

Excellent build LIGHT. Shine on, Lord!

In Peace,

I-Son

[Healthy Merking]

johannes said:

at the root we have the source, is ok...although i'm referring to that unnameable thing (tao) as the source of the root...

what doe you mean by at the root we have the source...are you equating the root and the source, or are you saying at the root we find the source (inluding that of the root)

also, check it: "where there is only one thing in the universe" makes it seem as though there is the universe, and one thing being in it

but you clarify your meaning by saying " basically: the universe:

so this is clear then??

so wait, you were referring to the tao/allah whatever as the source of the root which is the universe or are you calling the tao the universe itself as a unity?

i am saying that EVERYTHING (multiple 'things') is EVERYTHING (one 'thing' - unity)
if the universe is a synonym for EVERYTHING in your understanding, yes - the universe is the tao is the unity is the ...

for me, this is i how i see the progression of number

fundamentally, there is that which is one

that which is one, is characterized by nature of unity, and that means it is in the "realm" of the absolute. it grounds all "relative" being.

cuz check it out, the one that is, follows from the nature of that which is one, but also follows from the nature of the relative being. so the one that is, is actually infinite in number, has a beginning middle and end, has measure and quality of all sorts, and is basically what we might want to call "a thing"

and within those two compliments, the absolute and the relative, that which is one and the one that is, we have all number because the rest of number is already included in the one that is


for me the tao spoken of in lao tzu is that absolute unnamable, uncharacterizable, unexperiencable oneness that is beyond relative being but is thankfully available to our insight and intuition through the power of our minds

i can visualize where you are coming from with this

many words but your point comes across

i also kind of agree with your summary of the 'oneness'

i at times am also thankful that it is 'available' to us

what i am really aiming for in threads like this is to be able to define these things using english and as few clear and concise words as possible

it still amazes me how difficult it is to communicate certain understandings

PEACE

ADD ON

did you read the entire hitch hiker's guide to the galaxy?

[Healthy Merking]

CIVILISON said:

Peace LIGHT,

How about:

1. Self (Ba, the Universal Soul)
2. You (your Ego and Spirit [one and the same?], Ka or individuated being)
3. The interactions between these two realms/faculties are the events that comprise something that we call life.

Can the Tao be equated to Maat or Amen?

At the ‘root’ exists NOTHING but perpetual and unlimited Divine Potential.

Excellent build LIGHT. Shine on, Lord!

In Peace,

I-Son

PEACE CIVIL

metaphors be metaphors be metaphors

love them all

but constantly seek refinement
and yet to constantly seek new forms of expressing

the metaphors and metaphors and metaphors

spiral out - KEEP SHINING

i am not familiar with the Maat and Amen metaphors to comment on them

at one point in the past years i was considering putting together a chart of metaphors
but then i found out that that was the way aleister crowley went
which caused me to re-think that course of action

PEACE

please enlighten as to the Maat and Amen references if you could

PEACE TO THE GODS

[johannes chimpo]

LIGHTHOUSE said:

what i am really aiming for in threads like this is to be able to define these things using english and as few clear and concise words as possible

it still amazes me how difficult it is to communicate certain understandings


did you read the entire hitch hiker's guide to the galaxy?

ya i feel you on using as few clear and consice words as possible...that's why poetry is so effective, cuz it explains everything sometimes so clearly with words that aren't even necessarily usually meant to mean what they mean when interpreted poetically


and no i haven't read the hitch hiker's guide to the galaxy at all...i heard they're making a movie though!

[Healthy Merking]

PEACE JC

the haiku MUST be allah's writing technique

a beautiful observation

you should peep the hitch hikers guide if you read books and are looking for some insightful slapstick comedy

always bring a towel
don't panic

PEACE

maybe i should turn the haiku into my standard form of communication

is that possible?

[contrastiktion]

they already have a "Hitchikers guide..." movie.
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6302665213/qid%3D1101578187/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/102-1923216-2973764
It's SUPER corny tho.... my mom gave me that book when i was like 11 or so... silly stuf...

and here is the towel that Chimpo is talking bout



and it appears there will be a new version of HHGTG
hitchhikers.movies.go.com/
should be good

[Healthy Merking]

PEACE TAM

is it fair to say that sex then is a form of intimacy with your environment

where you and your environment merge and interact to create something?

and the lesson is:
that when you allow yourself to interact with your environment in a way that stimulates but is not productive then this is a source pain and results in punishment?

i feel an over-arching theme oozing out of this

please respond back

i would like to hear your thoughts

PEACE

[Healthy Merking]

PEACE TAM

yo

i don't know if the same happened to you

but this little exchange has my brain going supernova

again

i may have just leaped over another stone on the spiritual path

thanks

or something

PEACE

it seems that one of the most liberating things that you can do in life is admit (to everything and anything) that

i need you more than you will ever need me

i reckon that is what is implied by the whole concept of submitting to the will of the most high

that is some potent muthafuckin magic right there

i feel like i am gonna throw up

P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-PEACE