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Post by SAMURAI36 on Jan 16, 2005 17:19:00 GMT -5
These days, I'm hearing more and more about this non-sense, as if it's the proverbial Savior for Humanity in this day and time.
People like WEOR, BLAVATSKY and others are CHARLITONS, IMO.
They are self-serving people who diverge people (whether intentionally or otherwise) further away from the truth, and more 2-wards watered-down versions of it.
What are anyone's thoughts on this matter?
PEACE
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Post by SAMURAI36 on Jan 16, 2005 18:01:35 GMT -5
True indeed. This in junction with our "other discussion" should prove quite informative.
Let's consolidate it all here.
PEACE
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Post by UniverseSeven on Jan 17, 2005 12:11:14 GMT -5
P+E(AC)=E Theosophy=Luciferianism Sam you are right, Theosophy is a dry stream. The deception is intentional. Freemasonry, P2, Nazi Occult, Gladio, Thule, Fascism, CIA, Luciferianism, and Far Right Reactionary Politics. www.freemasonrywatch.org/P2.html |
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Post by SAMURAI36 on Jan 22, 2005 10:52:35 GMT -5
PEACE U7: In all honesty, I truly believe that all of the aforementioned groups began with the greatest of intentions, but we all know where "good intentions" can lead us.......  The more I read/hear of BLAVATSKY, WEOR and others of a similar mind, the more I realize that they really don't know what they're talking about. The biggest and most crucial difference between these people, and the ancient and modern teachers that are descendants/ancestors of the men and women who created and diligently practiced these ancient sciences, is just that--the former are not shining x-amples of such practice, while the latter are. I've heard all sorts of names and titles attributed to these people: SAGE, PRIEST(ESS), ALCHEMIST, etc...... These are titles that are earned, and are done so by doing far more than just writing books about it. Anybody can sit around and philosophize about these concepts.......It is another matter entirely to live it. The beauty about the Way of the Feather, about I-CHING, about METU NETER, about DREAMWALKING, about QABALAH, etc, is that in order to know it, you must live it. Everything I read from BLAVATSKY, for x-ample, leads to a dead end (or "DRY STREAM", as U7 stated), because there is no indication within her works that she had become a living embodiment of those teachings. That in fact, was the very crux of ancient SAGES like JESUS.......More over, that's what it means to be a SAGE. Feel free to Add-On more with ideas. PEACE |
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Post by jonnygemini on Feb 4, 2005 19:50:16 GMT -5
Peace Tamahu were the "regular" or prince hall masons? found this tidbit googling "malcolm X + freemasonry" to find out... www.geocities.com/CollegePark/4885/mib.htmlThe Autobiography of Malcolm X described Malcolm's encounter with an MIB(man in black?) in prison: "He had on a dark suit I remember. I could see him as plainly as I see anyone I look at. He wasn't black, and he wasn't white. He was light-brown skinned, an Asiatic cast of countenance, and he had oily black hair..." It is interesting that the celebrated film "Malcolm X" chooses to imply that this figure was Nation of Islam leader Elijah Mohammed. While Elijah Mohammed and his mysterious teacher Wallace Fard (who vanished without a trace) had come out of High Degree Prince Hall Freemasonry, and certainly knew some of the esoteric secrets, the being Malcolm X described is more in accord with Aleister Crowley's description of the praterhuman intelligence Aiwass than of Elijah Mohammed. |
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Post by Os3y3ris on Feb 4, 2005 23:13:09 GMT -5
I think X is making a point with that description. He's expressing a powerful presence in terms that give a sense of awe and wonder. This description is EASILY human. An "asiatic" man with oily hair? C'mon. Even if it wasn't Elijah, it sounds human enough. Looks not only a tad Asian, but light skinned and anyone can oil their hair up.  |
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Post by jonnygemini on Feb 5, 2005 3:12:20 GMT -5
I meant no disrespect to the honorable elijah muhammed...
He seems to be a "larger than life" figure to me in many ways...I did not mean to imply I believe he is Asian/African/Pacific Islander...doesn't matter to me anyway...but if any figure in NOI history could be construed as 'alien" I would say Fard makes more sense
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Post by UniverseSeven on Feb 6, 2005 1:43:22 GMT -5
P+E(AC)=E I am Black (Native American and African) and White (Irish/O'Driscoll, German/Weor and English/Childress). I was born Feburary 29th (Leap Year) 1980 (Pisces) My Grandfather was a 32 degree Mason of the York and Scottish rites... Tamahu - Farrakhan promotes Zionism? Lies... and whoever said it was lying. Farrakhan is slandered regularly as an anti-semite, which he is not, and the definition(s) are incorrect since many Blacks are Semites (ex. Arabs and Ethiopians). www.radioislam.org/noi/is-conf-us.htm... ADL Says Don't be Duped by Farrakhan's "Outreach" to Jews; Calls W. D. Mohammad's Alliance with NOI Distressing www.adl.org/PresRele/NatIsl_81/3573_81.htmI love Farrakhan. I came when he called and I would do it again! Million Man March: the significance of that day still misses your comprehension. Did anyone else attend? (See Heaven comin by Witchdocter) Come back home. Where is Home? and If you have a problem with Zionism why are you reading Kabbalah (subversion of the LAWS,)? maybe I am missing something? but... talk about promotion. This is certainly the thread for the discussion... Sage - A wise and virtuous person, an accomplished one who is second in rank to a saint. Sneek Peek: www.immortalbirth.com/sneekpeek.htmlManifesto of the BLACK THORN LEAGUE www.hermetic.com/bey/blackthorn.htmltime to seperate Thelema... The book of the Law Liber AL vel Legis sub figura CCXX as delivered by LXXVIII unto DCLXVI. This book is the foundation of the new Aeon, and thus the whole of our Work. It was dictated in Cairo between noon and 1 P.M. on three successive days, April 8th, 9th, and 10th in the year of 1904. The Author called himself Aiwass, and claimed to be “the minister of Hoor-paar-kraat”; that is, a messenger FROM the FORCES RULING this Earth AT PRESENT. www.thelema.org/aa/documents/the_book_of_the_law/index.htmlWho's going here? www.ordoantichristianusilluminati.org/P+E(AC)=E |
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Post by UniverseSeven on Feb 6, 2005 2:26:19 GMT -5
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Post by jonnygemini on Feb 7, 2005 0:53:55 GMT -5
Peace
I am Mexican (Marin) & Hungarian (Jacob...Gypsy-Magyr-Jew? I'm not sure...)...My name is Jonathon Jacob..Which is some transliteration of Yacub I'm fairly confident...Maybe on some subconscious level that is driving my interest in the Original Knowledge...I have been curious ever since Alex Haley broke it down in Malcolm's biography about Yacub the scientist who created my skin color...
I was born May 26 (Gemini) 1980 Year of the Monkey and I identify with both aspects strongly...
I realize as I have posted more stuff up here
how lacking my basic knowledge of the Metu Neter, Original Knowledge, Supreme Mathematics, Qaballah, Tree of Life, Tarot and all things esoteric is...Basically I realize I need to read more and study up...take a break to build myself before I can contribute to what you are all building...I was doing my laundry with my girl this morning and standing out in the sun feeling good and really for the first time in a while felt humble and understood how much I have to learn.
My favorite quote ever is from Sam Clemens aka Mark Twain...
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove everyone's doubt"
Appreciated the links you provided Universe7...thanks for the reading...Any ideas on where I could do legit research on my father's last name Jacob to see where I can trace it to? He's passed now and I don't know much about the fam...except that they came from Hungary
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Post by SAMURAI36 on Feb 23, 2005 9:45:40 GMT -5
I think X is making a point with that description. He's expressing a powerful presence in terms that give a sense of awe and wonder. This description is EASILY human. An "asiatic" man with oily hair? C'mon. Even if it wasn't Elijah, it sounds human enough. Looks not only a tad Asian, but light skinned and anyone can oil their hair up. PEACE O: Please understand, that there is a HUGE difference between "ASIAN" and "ASIATIC"........At the very least, the NOI teaches and accentuates that difference. ARABS are "ASIATIC", and they look little to nothing like those of the FAR EAST. That's why it is taught that we are the "ASIATIC BLACK MAN", because of the BLACKS that migrated out of AFRICA into ASIA and abroad. PEACE |
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Post by WhirlingMoat on Mar 9, 2005 8:48:23 GMT -5
Peace...
Where does this madness about the Master Fard Muhammad being a memeber of freemasonry come from? Can anyone elaborate on this?
The Muslim Knight
Whirling Moat
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Post by SAMURAI36 on Apr 1, 2005 10:34:19 GMT -5
Peace... Where does this madness about the Master Fard Muhammad being a memeber of freemasonry come from? Can anyone elaborate on this? The Muslim Knight Whirling Moat Many Masons make the claim that Master Farad Muhammad can counted on the Masonic Charter, as supposedly can Elijah, and even Noble Drew Ali. While I have no evidence of this myself either way, I think the suppositional aspect of this assertion comes from the fact that many of the NOI, 5%, and Moorish Science ideologies can be in many ways correlated with those of Masonry. However, it is my position that it's the other way around; Masonry, in any form, location, and practice is not new. As a matter of fact, my knowledge of this has led me to understand that Masonry borrows many of its tenets from other ancient cultures and societies, Islam being one of them (certainly the most recent). Thus, the practices that FARAD, ELIJAH, and DREW brought to their LOST-FOUND people, were not new ones, and even if they were discovered by them through some MASONIC affiliations, that does not make these teachings any less ISLAMIC or otherwise ancient. Going back to the overall theme of this thread, the key here is to seek out the oldest form of these idea(l)s, and begin there with your understanding, from the past to the present. If you're not dealing with the SOURCE, then you're only dealing with the SYMPTOM. HOTEP |
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