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Post by Healthy Merking on Jan 31, 2006 19:12:20 GMT -5
carried over from the 'suffering' thread The Death ting can easily become another bullshit dogma as well coz truly we dont know what happens when we die. All I can do is imagine The Final Scene and what realisations I may have at that time. Making death the central theme has sometimes made me feel like I'm waiting to go on a long holiday or moving away, now that's somethin to be excited about not afraid of, maybe take-off could be a bit nerve-racking but hey once you're up you're up, it's about enjoying the ride I suppose. But I got a feeling that this waiting doesnt truly stop, as long as the 'waiting' doesnt turn into a bored waiting. The quality of this waiting is an alert waiting, like a servant waiting for his master to come home Anyway this might be a whole new topic. I have 'death' on the brain at the moment, need to file these thoughts properly fuck man i couldnt have said it better i got death on the brain too and i agree with what you say about waiting maybe take-off could be a bit nerve-racking in a nutshell this is the life we lead i dont know if the take off is nerve racking - its more like if you dont get the take off right then you have to come back and go at it all over again there is no easy way out if there was - i definitely would have jumped in front of a train by now or tried to find solace at the bottom of a bottle but every time i took a good look at those options it seemed like i was just lining myself to face the problems all over again i have a hunch that the waiting stops when it does not feel like waiting anymore have you read the hagakure? i read that about 3 1/2 years ago and death has been on my mind ever since
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Post by lhfoundation on Jan 31, 2006 20:49:47 GMT -5
U know what bro- the Hagakure has been on my shelf for time, i've got a love/hate relationship with books at the moment so i aint really picked it up, maybe it's time.
It made me dizzy when u said
"i have a hunch that the waiting stops when it does not feel like waiting anymore"
I swear this relates to something i read on here about how the smoothness of your energy transference will determine the nature of your death.
I suppose the next question would be what are the key ingredients to a smooth take-off?
Some of them could be; Acceptance, Surrender, the degree to which u Wait without waiting, the dgree to which u lack compulsion, your degree of humility. All in all the degree to which u are dead! I always seem 2 come 360 with this death thing
I feel like I'm missing somethin here or maybe there's nothing more to say
Our society has denied death for so long- it takes a lot for me to keep it at the foreground of my mind, but everytime i do i find a depth of silence i.e. potential there that no other thought gives me
With the whole "die before you die" thing...... A while ago I was reading about the Egyptian God Sekher as a representation of God's Omnipotence. The God is also referred to as presider over the dead which refers to the state an initiate must be in to attain the power of this God. This relates to my next point.....To die is to be born into something new or "re-born" so therefore there's no concrete event called death. So what is death a means to? LIFE. From the Egyptian (more accurately Kamitic) perspective death is a means to attaining True Power- any thoughts on this? Also it is said in terms of dying before you die, u will have access to the sound units used to create and destroy life (Words of Power/Hekau)- do u know of this, what's your view/experiences if any??
There's a whole area of study and practice that I've neglected purely because being in the Final Scene as much as I can has provided me with more than enough kicks in the arse and knowledge. I jus wanna stay there though until I fully understand.
I havent expressed myself in the best way I could, run out of time but still.............
Please fill in the gaps people
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Post by Healthy Merking on Feb 1, 2006 12:06:47 GMT -5
U know what bro- the Hagakure has been on my shelf for time, i've got a love/hate relationship with books at the moment so i aint really picked it up, maybe it's time. there is just as much to hate as there is to love about it ultimately it is just another book even tho i have been fanatic about it at times as far as death goes tho i have yet to come across a piece of literature that deals with the issue so matter-of-factly it made me kind of dizzy to be able to summarize it like that (i still feel like i am waiting) maybe it could be said that if you feel like you are missing something then you prolly ARE missing something problem is - in this game - you have no way of knowing what the 'something' is like the old saying goes - 'the teacher appears when the student is ready' sometimes my teacher is the internet sometimes my teacher is a cantaloupe sometimes my teacher is a random newspaper article sometimes a ridiculous pop music lyric sometimes the realization that it is cold and about to rain and i am at least two hours away from shelter maybe it lasts until there is not a scenario of suffering that you would not be able to endure peep the book of job i imagine that until a person 'dies' they have no idea what power really is to truly be limited by nothing other than your imagination (thats power) it would be nice if there was a syllabus and format for this course but you gotta take this shit as it comes take it serious and laugh at the absurdity
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Post by lhfoundation on Feb 2, 2006 8:57:20 GMT -5
Yesterday my teacher was an empty glass, the pureness of the sound when i struck it with my fork compared with the flatness of the sound when i filled the cup with flour (sorry mum), the different sound when i filled it with milk etc. I've now got Empty Glass syndrome, but it helped me feel a bit more dead (or alive if u really look at it) and definitely taught me suttin about human nature.
Anyway i really appreciated the things u just stated, it's good to talk it out with someone without feeling like I'm 'mental'.
"to truly be limited by nothing other than your imagination (thats power)"
Which I'm now seeing is a fundamental realisation of many people who find themselves in the Final Scene, probably much to their dismay or much to their suprise etc
Personally I think it's safer for those people to realise this when 'it's too late' because that's a pretty dangerous concept.
Anyway time's gone again, i'll be back with more hopefully
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Post by Healthy Merking on Feb 2, 2006 21:09:36 GMT -5
Anyway i really appreciated the things u just stated, it's good to talk it out with someone without feeling like I'm 'mental'. [/quotes] the internet seems to have the power to heal at least - it seems to have helped me in that way maybe its only 'dangerous' until its over in hindsight the urgency of eveything dulls
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Post by Healthy Merking on Feb 3, 2006 13:49:47 GMT -5
also -
only thru serious consideration of death does it seem possible to fully understand what 'life' might be
in the same vein as the saying 'you never know what you HAD until its GONE'
a wise man might suggest that it would be smart to try giving away the things you have to see what they really are
maybe
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