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Post by UniverseSeven on Mar 14, 2005 14:55:58 GMT -5
"I lost in the eyes of others, yes. But in terms of learning valuable lessons about myself and the martial arts, I won. Fighting is the means, not the ends. As steel sharpens steel...
Plus I get paid regardless.
As for you, what do you gain? I don't know. But what do you lose? So much. Even if you "win", you lose so much."
There was a moral to my story, if you missed it you aren't very bright, It was in response to your ignorant statement "fightings fun, yall should try it" Has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read on the Cradle.
I get paid... I'm 25 and own a $200,000.00 home and a 23' foot Regal, I don't know what getting paid has to do with any of this but I get paid too, more than you, and I don't get beat up to earn my money.
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Post by jonnygemini on Mar 14, 2005 15:18:36 GMT -5
Sun Tzu sez:
Art of War
III: Attack by Stratagem
Part 2
2. Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
Fighting has never been fun for me...I gotten my ass beat many times...never have I walked away from a fight in better shape than I began it in...my pops gave me a demonstration with a canteloup and his fist in the backyard when I was 10...I never wanted anyone's fist to do to my head...what his did to the melon...
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 14, 2005 15:41:49 GMT -5
Is it that dumb? Its a statement of fact. And as I said, the difference of circumstance and purpose changes that reality. I can't lose. I really couldn't care less what they do to me. Ok, I got knocked out. That's the risk. That's the price. I'll accept that. Shit, I may even be crippled or killed. I'll accept that. God forbid I end up in such a condition, but to be real, that's the price. One minute and 21 seconds of peace. One minute and 21 seconds of education. I don't fight for the sake of my opponent. I don't bare him any ill will. In fact, we may be friends when all is said and done. Only two people came to see me fight. A couple years ago he'd left me bloody and bruised. In terms of sheer brutality, it was the worse beating I've ever taken regardless of intent or location. Frankly, he could've killed me. Regardless, no one has taught me more. So see, I don't fight to destroy my opponents, I fight for myself. That's the difference between you and me. We fight in different ways and we fight for different reasons. There's a reason why I have fun and you don't. Its not because one of us is wrong, but because our circumstances are different, our attitudes are differe and we're different people.
I don't care. I was merely pointing out the difference in situation here. I get paid to get in that ring and fight. I'd do it for free, but the money doesn't hurt. Merely explaining myself. I really don't care too much what you have.
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 14, 2005 15:50:05 GMT -5
I really don't care too much about the "enemy". In fact, rarely is he my enemy. He might even be my friend.
You got your ass beat and you got hurt, ok. There's so much more you can take from that though.
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Post by UniverseSeven on Mar 14, 2005 16:13:55 GMT -5
"Interesting. The difference between the two of us is that I can't lose, while, under those circumstances anyways, you can't win."
Don't try to explain away your insult to me. I'll make you eat your words. You want a real fight? Step out of the ring and see where you find yourself with that big ass mouth....
In the REAL WORLD there are no refs, or rules to save you.
We are different. You know nothing about me, or why I fought in the past, or why I fight now. ASSUME nothing about me.
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 14, 2005 16:28:02 GMT -5
You're worse than I am. I like to fight for my own reasons in various ways and I say so. You're sitting here looking for a fight while arguing that fighting is not fun and is inherently negative. What type of hypocrisy is that? I though you were wise? I explained my comments, but you still look for insult and strive for violence and bad blood? What the fuck are you doing?
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Post by UniverseSeven on Mar 14, 2005 16:38:40 GMT -5
I didn't challenge you to fight, nor do I seek to cause violence upon you. I am trying to convey to you a message. You do not deny that you insulted me, If I had been telling my story in a room of people and you said what you said to me there would have been a fight. Maybe you are more brave with your words on the internet than in real life, but if you excercise your mouth before thinking about what you are saying you will find yourself in a situation you cannot control.
and your comments did not explain your insult.
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Post by UniverseSeven on Mar 14, 2005 16:46:07 GMT -5
Also I have overlooked other attempts by you to undermine my character on your behalf and I have had enough.
I will not say anymore so let it end there, and understand what I am saying.
I have no problem with your enjoyment of fighting in the ring. I only felt I should enlighten upon this statement "Fighting is fun, yall should try it" which was broad and general and can be misinterpreted by readers in its context, though I know you were refering to "fighting" within the ring.
You responded to my post with 1. insensitivity
and 2. and insult.
Let it end here, I have nothing more to say
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 14, 2005 16:47:39 GMT -5
Then you really aren't so wise. No one insulted you. If someones words sound odd, further discussion is the route in question. I may have akwardly phrased things, but I the ultimate breakdown in communication is when one side loses control of their emotions and proceeds to take things to a physical level when thats not necessary. I'll only be in danger should I run into someone crazy enough to fight me and then crazy enough to beat me. You're always in danger. People will always say things that can be misconstrued. You're a danger to yourself and those around you if thats how you think. All the knowledge you try and drop here and you're really so ignorant as to go flying off the handle over a misunderstanding?
You are truely ignorant. That doesn't need clarification or explanation, but only reiteration. You are truely ignorant. You'd rather die than take a second to understand? Are you serious?
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 14, 2005 16:51:09 GMT -5
Undermine your character? Some of your beliefs maybe, but the only one undermining your character is YOU and you're doing it NOW. I figured you had some sense and a touch of wisdom, regardless of our different views, but it seems I was wrong. You're acting like a petty thug. You're the guy who'd try and fight me over me scuffing his Jordan's. I had respect for you. Now you're showing your ignorance.
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Post by jonnygemini on Mar 14, 2005 16:53:31 GMT -5
All I got out of my myriad ass beatings was the desire to avoid them in the future...Now if anyone threatened my earth or my german shepherd I would have no problems gouging eyes, biting throats and grabbing balls until my fam is safe...BUT I would much prefer to avoid putting them anywhere near harm by using intelligence and perception instead of fighting skill...Because ultimately, no matter if your skills are like Bruce Lee, a gun will still win the fight every time
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Post by UniverseSeven on Mar 14, 2005 16:55:05 GMT -5
"The difference between the two of us is that I can't lose, while, under those circumstances anyways, you can't win."
This in response to my post can be taken as nothing but an insult and I'm sure everyone would agree.
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Post by UniverseSeven on Mar 14, 2005 16:57:19 GMT -5
Also I have overlooked other attempts by you to undermine my character on your behalf and I have had enough.
I will not say anymore so let it end there, and understand what I am saying.
I have no problem with your enjoyment of fighting in the ring. I only felt I should enlighten upon this statement "Fighting is fun, yall should try it" which was broad and general and can be misinterpreted by readers in its context, though I know you were refering to "fighting" within the ring.
You responded to my post with 1. insensitivity
and 2. an insult.
I have proved my point.
Let it end here, I have nothing more to say
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 14, 2005 17:03:06 GMT -5
I clarified what I meant. You still want drama though. And then you go and talk about how you'd be fighting in person if someone said that shit. Is the delivery of a beatdown so urgent that there can be no discussion? Do you lust for violence that much? And you have the audacity to lecture ME? You percieve an insult and automatically restort to violence. What does that solve? Is that really your mentality? And you call yourself wise? No wonder you reacted as you did to my statement that fighting is fun. You're not arguing that its not fun, but that you enjoy it more than me.
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Post by Os3y3ris on Mar 14, 2005 17:06:48 GMT -5
Did I lie? If your people are in prison, seems like you've lost quite a bit. If you're lying in the street bloody and broken, you've lost quite a bit. If the police are kicking down your door to get to you, you've lost quite a bit. And as long as malice is a way of life, you'll continue to lose. You know that as well as I do.
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