ZEITGEIST

[SAMURAI36]

As a writer myself, though I have aspirations to pump out great volumes of prolific literary work, I'm rather troubled by what I've been perceiving as the fact that viewer and viewer people are reading these days. The value of acquiring knowledge thru the written word is rapidly on the decline.

Thus, how, is pertinent info to be disseminated to the masses?

Well, amongst several mediums, I'm finding the documentaries appear to be the way to go.

Since the turn of this century, documentaries have become all the sensation. Perhaps it sparked from Michael Moore's works, who's to say.

However, it seems that film makers are coming out, with guns a'blazin'.

For me, the most prominent one has been ZEITGEIST. This 2-volume work, is nearly a knowledge-seeker's wet dream, as it were.

For the enlightened of us, ZEITGEIST (a German term, meaning "Spirit of the Times") takes the puzzle apart and meticulously puts it back together again, right on our TCV screens.

The 2 volumes are strategically devised, and in the ads for both, the creators state that "while volume 1 serves to identify the problem, volume 2 shows us the possible solution".

I don't want to spoil the info demonstrated on both these volumes. Both volumes of these docs can be viewed from YOU TUBE, GOOGLE, and related other sites. They can also be purchased as DVD's from various places on-line as well.

The creators of the docs even encourage us to make as many copies of these docs as possible, and pass them out (which I have already done).

Looking forward to discussing this in further detail with you all.

PEACE

[Heavym3ntal]

a lot of that ZEITGEIST material could be diss-info. Its filled with a clutter of info, thats confusing. It explains the what but not the WHY.

Im sure the Zeitgiest, dan brown are all part of the Elite.

[CIVILISON]

I hear what you're saying I spend many hours watching documentaries myself and noticed the trend in reading less these days. Im still much in the literary materials but also dedicate time to learning from the media world as much as I can and as much truth as there is in it in the first place or as much truth as I personally extract from it. I don't know if that is the better way of gaining information but like you said yourself it seems to be on the rise now and people are more comfortable with watching a documentary. It probably has something to do with the practicality of it, a lot of people these days like to just chill out and watch a good documentary just browsing the net, its real easy and enjoyable.

I think a lot of people are waking up to the realities of the world. I remember about reading about all this crazyness in late 90s, early 2000s and when I used to mention it to people they were just saying not to worry about it and carry on with my life but now it seems as though everybody is talking about due to the large influx of these easily accessible documentaries.

Zietgiest was a good one no doubt, its foremost quality was the eloquence of the narrator. He seems to have a well developed knowledge on the subject matter. I enjoyed how they broke down the banking system although upon deeper research I found a lot of the ideas were borrowed from the movie released in 1995 under the name of The Money Masters. I think the thing about Zietgiest is that it was clean and very well put together and relative to the times. It had some pertinent info in it for sure I big it up for that.

I see this whole topic under a certain light. There is a lot to be learned from these types of movies but also if a person doesn't have a strong enough of a spiritual foundation, it is easy to get scared, tricked or overwhelmed by this and all these are counter productive in terms of producing an accurate understanding of the situation. For the Man of Understanding this info is much beneficial as it exposes the moves of the snake even more. Not that we are not familiar with it but now it becomes more and more evident as more people decide to cover the topic.

Ive heard and read of the anti-Zietgiest theories but I mean I watch it and understand it for myself and not anybody else. In that sense I gain insights into the subject matter but also try to keep in mind everything is a part of everything and no word can be trusted unless it is backed up by your own verified truth.

The bottom line is we need to become more conscious of the happenings around us whether social, cultural, financial, mental or spiritual and some of these movies are a good way of doing that especially for the spiritual infant. The video appeals to their mind.

All things also lead us into the realization that we are emotionally controlled beings and unless we control the emotion there is no end to evil on this world. I think man of control embody this principle and cannot ascend above their own familiar egos although they are of a great philosophic background. The fruit of their work and their failure of cultivation of true spiritual power is therefore painfully visible

Peace 2 Everybody building here...

[Longevity]

I think Zegiest is a great series. I also agres that informative/educational films a.k.a. documentaries are the new books. I find myself looking for documentaries on subjects I'm researching more the for the books on the same matter. I do make it a point though to know of books on the subject at hand to get a more indepth understand of the subject. What I also do is further research the subject online to find and read as much info as I can. I did that when I was studying wholistic health and wellness.

[SAMURAI36]

May 7, 2009 20:04:41 GMT -5 Heavym3ntal said:

a lot of that ZEITGEIST material could be diss-info. Its filled with a clutter of info, thats confusing. It explains the what but not the WHY.

Im sure the Zeitgiest, dan brown are all part of the Elite.

Hmm, this is interesting... Would you mind sharing what from the doc you found confusing? Was it confusing for you, or do you simply think it would be confusing for a new comer watching it for the first time?

[Heavym3ntal]

Jun 24, 2009 16:11:17 GMT -5 SAMURAI36 said:

Hmm, this is interesting... Would you mind sharing what from the doc you found confusing? Was it confusing for you, or do you simply think it would be confusing for a new comer watching it for the first time?

for a new comer...those films along with money masters dont tell you the true meaning of their topic(banks/printing money) in the film. Which is the true purpose of printing money. tThey tell you the what but not the WHY.

[Longevity]

If you can't cee the WHY in these films then you're missing the point Heavy. The WHY is and always has been Control/Power/Conquest (all having the same meaning in the context that I'm using them in) The reasons for perpetuating religion and the monetary system is to keep people from looking at the Man Behind The Curtain.

It's not just Money and Religion, it's everything that's around us today. Entertainment (including news outlets), Education, Food, Drugs, Health Care, Hospitals, Clothing (materials, manufacturing and styles), Transportation, Housing, Birth, Death, Military & Weapontary and the list goes on and on. These are SYSTEMS that are used to take away peoples God-Centeredness and to put the real giant to sleep: The uninted oneness of God Conciousness that exists directly inside of all people, places and things. These SYSTEMS are the SYSTEMS referred to when people talk about the so-called religious end to these evil SYSTEM OF THINGS (which in reality from a religious stand point is really the complete and total cutting off of God in Man or God Conciousness).

Think of it like this. God Creates and the Devil Manipulates. God grows while the Devil controls. Thus those who control and operate these systems plant enough fear in people (from before birth) to depend on these systems on all things and tell them that if these systems were not in place the we would all destroy ourselves. Which, now may be true as a self fullfilling prophocy but it is in reality completely untrue.

If you study 120 lessons (I take it that you do because of your P.E.A.C.E. sig) deep enough you can cee this clear as day.

The whole purpose of waking up is for oneness with(activation of) the God in the center of your core (God-Centerness) so that it can work with the God Conciousness that is around you. These SYSTEMS are put in place to have you only seek the God Conciousness outside of ones own self and completely cuts off the God inside. If the God spark inside of all man became active at the same time, these SYSTEMS would crumble.

I hope what I've said helped you along. B.u.t. think about this as well if all you wanted to know was how banks work (Operate) and how money is printed (Manufactured) then you would want to go take a tour at the US Mint in Washigton D.C. not watch Movies like Zeitgeist and Money Masters. Oh oh and before I forget this jewel: You can most time find the WHY in the WHO. One thing that these movies definately do is give you the WHO's. History is the key to the WHY because the WHO's can give you the WHY's.

Love, Peace and Happiness

[CIVILISON]

^ that's what's up right here - tru indeed!

[SAMURAI36]

Jun 29, 2009 0:47:02 GMT -5 Heavym3ntal said:

Jun 24, 2009 16:11:17 GMT -5 SAMURAI36 said:

Hmm, this is interesting... Would you mind sharing what from the doc you found confusing? Was it confusing for you, or do you simply think it would be confusing for a new comer watching it for the first time?

for a new comer...those films along with money masters dont tell you the true meaning of their topic(banks/printing money) in the film. Which is the true purpose of printing money. tThey tell you the what but not the WHY.

LONGEVITY broke it down quite nicely, so there's no need for me to reiterate it. The WHY was thoroughly explained in the films.

[Longevity]

Thank you Shah

LP&H

[Heavym3ntal]

I was speaking on the ones who are new to the film and topic. Those people were confused about the true meaning of banks creating money. The main question the masses or those who watch those films day and night is if the banks can create money, then why do they need to make it... ?

The point is they dont have to.

The true purpose of this printing is human energy. Human life is part of enconomics which those agent films dont talk about it. They print it to Induce the masses so they can be exploited. The banks dont need to profit on their money. Money is the means not the end.

i dont know why they need 8 hours of movies to tell you how this system works.

[Longevity]

Jul 6, 2009 23:41:55 GMT -5 Heavym3ntal said:

I was speaking on the ones who are new to the film and topic. Those people were confused about the true meaning of banks creating money. The main question the masses or those who watch those films day and night is if the banks can create money, then why do they need to make it... ?

The point is they dont have to.

The true purpose of this printing is human energy. Human life is part of enconomics which those agent films dont talk about it. They print it to Induce the masses so they can be exploited. The banks dont need to profit on their money. Money is the means not the end.

i dont know why they need 8 hours of movies to tell you how this system works.

Now I cee what you're saying Heavy. Now one angle I agree with you because most people don't know how the current banking system is closely connected with Social Security Numbers and Birth Certificates. Most people all don't understand what a national or global debt means in terms of how much each person is worth like cattle (I posted a video here about this). B.u.t. on another side could be that these people making these doc's may not know about these connections. I've been studying this stuff deeply for 10+ years and I didn't have those dots connected for me until 9mons ago. It's about growth to me and you have to start somewhere which brings me back to what I stated in my above post.

If a new comer or even a old timer to this knowledge doesn't look at the WHO (did), what (to WHO), where (and when) then you wouldn't know WHY (they're doing these things) and How (to stop it or fight against it). That's why I love wise sayings. When I look at "Who, What, Where, When, Why and How" I cee that the WHO's will lead me to the WHY's. You've got to go deeper then what's being said in a book or a doc. My enlightener told me from day one you have read the book then go to the bibliography and read where they got there research from. So all you new comers that come across this post and read this, take this jewel and lock it up in your mental safe.

LP&H