Aleister Crowley in Quotes

[Healthy Merking]

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I've often thought that there isn't any "I" at all; that we are simply the means of expression of something else; that when we think we are ourselves, we are simply the victims of a delusion.

I loathe law. It seems to me as if it were merely an elaborate series of obstacles to doing things sensibly. And yet, of course, after all, one must have formalities, just as in flying you have to make arrangements for starting and stopping. But it is a beastly nuisance to have to attend to them.

I hadn't quite enough sense to know that what I really wanted was human companions. There aren't such things. Every man is eternally alone. But when you get mixed up with a fairly decent crowd, you forget that appalling fact for long enough to give your brain time to recover from the acute symptoms of its disease -- that of thinking.

My old commander was right. I think a lot too much; so did Shakespeare. That's what worked him up to write those wonderful things about sleep. I've forgotten what they were; but they impressed me at the time. I said to myself, "This old bird knew how dreadful it is to be conscious."

People think that talking is a sign of thinking. It isn't, for the most part; on the contrary, it's a mechanical dodge of the body to relieve oneself of the strain of thinking, just as exercising the muscles helps the body to become temporarily unconscious of its weight, its pain, its weariness, and the foreknowledge of its doom.

You see what gloomy thoughts a fellow can have, even when he's Fortune's pet. It's a disease of civilization. We're in an intermediate stage between the stupor of the present and -- something that is not yet properly developed.

The universe may contain an infinite variety of worlds inaccessible to human apprehension. Yet, for this very reason, they do not exist for the purposes of the argument. Man has, however, some instruments of knowledge; we may, therefore, define the Macrocosm as the totality of things possible to his perception. As evolution develops those instruments, the Macrocosm and the Microcosm extend; but they always maintain their mutual relation. Neither can possess any meaning except in terms of the other. Our "discoveries" are exactly as much of ourselves as they are of Nature. America and Electricity did, in a sense, exist before we were aware of them; but they are even now no more than incomplete ideas, expressed in symbolic terms of a series of relations between two sets of inscrutable phenomena.

If the reader happens to have passed his life in the study of what is nauseatingly known as "occult science," he would, if he were sufficiently intelligent, grasp one fact firmly; that is, that the persons sufficiently eminent in this matter who have become known as teachers, are bound to have possessed in overflowing measure the sense of irony and bitter humour. This greatest treasure in their characters is their only guarantee against going mad, and the way they exercise it is notably by writing with their tongues in their cheeks, or making fools of their followers.

PEACE

[Healthy Merking]

tamahu said:

Peace LHX


A very cunning black-magician indeed.

"Intelligent" as well.


It's such a shame that A. Crowley fanatics are abundant as weeds these days(a natural outcome of this Kali Yuga I suppose).

His (somewhat)impressive intellectual culture and wisdom mixed with a variety of mental poisons-some subtle and some blatant-is very attractive to the curious, and unsuspecting Human Souls who seek Light in these times of darkness.

I have a feeling that he my not have started out as an outright liar and manipulator. Then, while possibly holding to sincere intentions, fell off the Path; and eventually awakened his consciousness negatively, as to become a perfect tool for the devil. Thus, as an outcome, continuing to work consciously for the devil and misleading many toward the path of destruction(the wide gate).

Aleister Crowley:

I've often thought that there isn't any "I" at all; that we are simply the means of expression of something else; that when we think we are ourselves, we are simply the victims of a delusion.

This is true in a sense.

However the "I"(Set/Satan), fleeting as it may be, is a Karmic crystalization which traps our Consciousness(Herukhuti/Geburah), and is something that ultimately needs to be observed(it won't just go away by letting it continue to exist no matter how hard we try to suppress it), so that we can extract said trapped Consciousness and disintigrate the shell(whether it be greed, lust, hate. etc.) which contains it.

In this way, it is taught that The Supreme Self(Atman - Ma'at), the Eternal I AM(Kether or Ausar, the Crown of the Cosmic Christ -Eheieh Asher Eheieh-) can unfold within us, instead of being trapped within the "I"(ego).





Otherwise; we'll remain in the painful Wheel of Samsara, due to our ignorance, for possibly Billions of years(I doubt those, who say that the masses will eventually evolve in Consciousness mechanically, without Individual Supreme Effort); until the onset of the Maha-Pralaya or great Cosmic Night, where all things are ONE in the AIN SOPH(they ARE now as well, but not apparently) and there is no external manifestation. Though it is said that Individual Monads still enjoy various degrees of Bliss during the Great Cosmic Night, according to their Human Soul's level of effort toward Self Realization during the Maha-Manvantara(all this according to the teachings of Men considered to be Masters).


This, is something that the likes of A. Crowley doesn't teach, and is why his teachings are so attractive(most would rather feed their psychic aggregates(lust, envy, gluttony and so forth)) instead of dissolving them.

His followers are likely to mistake the "I" for the "I AM".

But, if anyone thinks that the ego is something that can be thought away, or ignored; please explain.

For to think that "I AM That which IS", is much different than knowing that(having Gnosis of) "I AM That which IS".


One more thing I'd like to address, is that while Sun Tzu's advice to -Know your "enemy"-(as Ra Un Nefer Amen points out, no one is really our enemy, but are rather instructors of whom will teach us to see ourselves) is advice to adhere to; this should be secondary to "Know thy Self"(The Self). For if we read the writings of people like A.C., Osho, Anton LeVey, etc.-even if to have a knowledge of those who are out to mislead us-while first not having Knowledge of Self, we're likely to become subconsciously influenced by such a mental atmosphere, which could prove detrimental to our own Self Realization.

This is just my advice, of which I follow myself; as I can't claim to have ever truly experienced The Self(yes, the ego is strong within me, I admit).


That's my two cents, if anyone would like to add-on.....

PEACE Tamahu

thanks for adding on

i take Crowley very personally

ever since i found out about him i hated his guts

i thought he was a beligerant fucker with a bad personality

but the problem with Crowley was the more i read about him
the more i noticed my path was leading me to the same places and making the same decisions that he was

and then i came across a bunch of very candid remarks (like the ones i posted here) which showed a different side of Crowley than the popular one

i understand the appeal of Crowley to the main stream - anything to do with magic sex and drugs always catches on

and it was this quote in particular that struck me:

"If the reader happens to have passed his life in the study of what is nauseatingly known as "occult science," he would, if he were sufficiently intelligent, grasp one fact firmly; that is, that the persons sufficiently eminent in this matter who have become known as teachers, are bound to have possessed in overflowing measure the sense of irony and bitter humour. This greatest treasure in their characters is their only guarantee against going mad, and the way they exercise it is notably by writing with their tongues in their cheeks, or making fools of their followers."

after reading that
it really came clear to me that Crowley was simply ahead of his time
and he was frustrated

a parallel i found with McLuhan

and when faced with the crystal clear knowledge that it isnt really possible to help other folx (other than making information available)

Crowley's action make painfully good sense

i face each moment and make my decisions with the understanding that shit is gonna reach its climax within the next 7 years

to me - that seems like a long time
and a good part of me would love to take a sledge hammer to public buildings
or drown myself in heroin and booze while chain smoking crack and camel lights

i can no longer in good conscious find fault in Crowley leading knuckleheadz to the path of destruction

for very similar reasons
i dont find fault with Ghostface for his verse on The Projects
and why i can listen to Bar Mitzvah by the Black Knights on repeat

Crowley story saddens me more than anything

PEACE

ADD ON

[UniverseSeven]

Peace All

Lets not treat this dog with kid gloves. Let me take my time to spit on his name.

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33° Mason, Aleister Crowley would definitely get some votes in the "most wicked man who ever lived contest" and is the clear cut favorite for the title of "The Father of Modern Satanism". Crowley's wicked life and his intimate association with Freemasonry are both well known.

Crowley himself was terribly decadent. A happily heroin-addicted, bisexual Satan worshiper, he asked people to call him "The Beast 666." Crowley believed that he was literally the antimessiah of the apocalypse.

During the first World War, Crowley transferred his activities to America. The press proclaimed him "the wickedest man in the world." He also spent time in Italy, but was expelled because Italian authorities accused his disciples of sacrificing human infants in occult rituals. According to one source, Crowley resided in the Abbey of Thelema near Cefalu Sicily, and revived ancient Dionysian ceremonies. During a 1921 ritual, he induced a he-goat to copulate with his mistress, then slit the animal's throat at the moment of orgasm

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"I was not content to believe in a personal devil and serve him, in the ordinary sense of the word. I wanted to get hold of him personally and become his chief of staff."

"I have never grown out of the infantile belief that the universe was made for me to suck."

"I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning."

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"

"Ordinary morality is only for ordinary people."

"But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best. "

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From SATANIC EXTRACTS, by Aleister Crowley:

The Oath of Fealty

I bind my blood in Satan's hands,

All this that lieth betwixt my hands

To thee, the Beast, and thy control,

I pledge me; body, mind, and soul.


*


Pledge

I swear to work my Work abhorred,

Careless of all but one reward,

The pleasure of the Devil our Lord

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IMO......

Excuse my frankness ...but Crowley is a devil.... faggoty usurping and hedonistic pedophile, sacrificing, satan worshipper, worthy of my bullet and sword.... and all who follow him.

Nothing new for a

Satanist/Luciferian/Relativist/Extentialist to be articulate or tell half truths.

O.T.O, Temple of Set, Thelema, Lavey's CoS...whatever...no mercy from me.

www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/aliester_crowley_33_degree_Mason_knew_about_human_sacrifice.htm

Moloch alive and well

Wont find this one on the boob tube....

"Remains of 9 babies found in eastern Germany; woman held"

This story is being whitewashed.

in.rediff.com/news/2005/aug/02babies.htm

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Peace Allah


P.S. Anyone's Cradle being buggy? If this post comes out... stretched. I don't know why...


Hunters of the Tremere

[Healthy Merking]

sweet dear mother of heavens

how the blood

what the

i dont get it

was there not enough emphasis on this quote:

"This greatest treasure in their characters is their only guarantee against going mad, and the way they exercise it is notably by writing with their tongues in their cheeks, or making fools of their followers."

round up crowley's 'followers' and drown them in cement

whatever yo

but

to say there is nothing to learn from crowley

is ignorance

simple ignorance

PEACE

its fun repeating stories we read and heard

maybe thats how the rumor of the white christ started too

[UniverseSeven]

Peace

LHX

I never said there was nothing to be learned from Crowely. I have read two of his works. I just find him utterly repulsive and count him among the enemy.

Sorry, Im not knocking the thread just saying my peace.

Makes my blood boil those pictures of him in Egyptian regalia.

I have also read Albert Pike, Blavatsky and Bailey

I find Pike and Bailey to be the best reads of the group.

Again no offense intended to you or Tamahu for that matter.

Peace

[UniverseSeven]

I do not know what stories you speak of or the intent of your meaning but quotes is quotes and I listed my selection. Evil he is...

[Kephrem]

I read somewhere that he was at one time highly esteemed by Hollywood celebrities and so-called rock stars.

[Healthy Merking]

universeseven said:

Peace

LHX

I never said there was nothing to be learned from Crowely. I have read two of his works. I just find him utterly repulsive and count him among the enemy.

Sorry, Im not knocking the thread just saying my peace.

Makes my blood boil those pictures of him in Egyptian regalia.

I have also read Albert Pike, Blavatsky and Bailey

I find Pike and Bailey to be the best reads of the group.

Again no offense intended to you or Tamahu for that matter.

Peace

nah nah nah

no offense taken man

maybe i am just a little frustrated

as i learn more
my perceptions of 'good' and 'evil' are changing

not too many people seem to agree

crowley was definitely not a 'good' guy

but he does not seem to be as bad as i first thought he was

if anything
it looks like he was bored

and as for his association with the masons or any other group

it appears to me that he made a mockery of them more than anything else

i find his story more tragic than revolting

PEACE

[SAMURAI36]

PEACE TO ALL:

I'm somewhat torn between the 2 convictions demonstrated here in this discussion.

On one hand (LHX's perspective), I can see the profundity of CROWLEY's work, a "calm amidst the chaos", if you will.

However, on the other hand (U7's perspective), I've grown to be rather suspicious of CROWLEY and others of his ilk's work.

What is the ends of his means? Why the harboring of these ideas under the auspice of these various secret groups?

I'm not one to throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater, but we must all be careful to scrutinize all that we come in contact with, and take nothing lightly, nor too seriously at the same time.

PEACE

[Os3y3ris]

I think Crowley is a pretty straightforward character. Some of his stuff is well thought out and philosophically deep. He is also quite the wicked character by all accounts. The two are not mutually exclusive.

[UniverseSeven]

[Healthy Merking]

is crowley in that picture?

i never been a huge fan of the beatles

PEACE

[UniverseSeven]

Yes he is in the last row second person from the farthest left.

Like Keph said

Crowley is hugely popular in Hollywood and the Rock Industry.

Jim Morrisen was another Crowely fan, he drank blood and had relations with a well known witch, and was involved in black magic, O.T.O, the Occult.

From Wickpedia:

Aleister Crowley, Led Zepplin and Jimmy Page

Page seemed to have a strange obsession with the 19th century black magician and founder of Thelema, Aleister Crowley. He pressed the motto of Crowley, "Do What Thou Wilt" (along with "So Mote Be It" on the reverse side), into their album, Led Zeppelin III, and suspicions were high when he bought

Crowley's 'Boleskine House'. When their fourth untitled album was released, the song "Stairway To Heaven" was said to have satanic messages in the verse: 'If there's a bustle in your hedgerow'.

What made people particularly curious about Page's connection with the occult was the appearance of four symbols on the jacket of Led Zeppelin's fourth album. It was generally accepted that the four symbols represented each member of the band. During tours and performances after the release of Led Zeppelin IV, he often had zodiac symbols embroidered on his clothes (those of Capricorn, Scorpio and Cancer which are probably his Sun, Ascendant and Moon signs, respectively) along with the ZoSo symbol. This fuelled the curiosity of many fans who went to great lengths to find out what the symbols mean.

Photos of Boleskine House
www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/7069/bole-2.html

"On August 4,1975, Plant and his family were seriously injured in a car crash while vacationing on the Greek island of Rhodes. As a result, the group toured even less frequently. That and speculation among fans that supernatural forces may have come into play (Plant believed in psychic phenomena, and Page, whose interest in the occult was well known, once resided in Boleskine House, the former home of infamous satanist Aleister Crowley) also heightened the Zeppelin mystique."

"In 1976 Led Zeppelin released Presence, a four-million seller. The group had just embarked on its U.S. tour when Plant’s six-year-old son Karac died suddenly of a viral infection. The remainder of the tour was canceled, and the group took off the next year and a half. In late 1978 they began work on In Through the Out Door, the band’s last group effort. They had completed a brief European tour and were beginning to rehearse for another U.S. tour when, on September 25, 1980, Bonham died at Page’s (Boleskine House) home of what was described as asphyxiation; he had inhaled his own vomit after having excessively consumed alcohol and fallen asleep."

awarestore.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=description&artist_ID=2860&CFID=818203&CFTOKEN=21716461

Eric Clapton

"It would be his last new studio album for nearly five years, though in the interim he would suffer greatly and enjoy surprising triumph. On March 20, 1991, Clapton's four-year-old son was killed in a fall."

interestingly, Clapton's career benefitted from this event.

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ROCK MUSIC AND SATANIST ALEISTER CROWLEY

As noted, Crowley died a wasted heroin addict given to rages and doubts. His last words were “I am perplexed…” Crowley worshipped the demon god Pan, the god of sexuality and lust.

His “Hymn to Pan” was read at his funeral: “I rave and I rape and I rip and I rend/ Everlasting world without end!”

www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/rockmusic-and-crowley.htm

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I Sold My Soul For Rock and Roll & Mind Control
www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/occult-rock-music.htm

Lucifer Rising
www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/lucifer-rising.htm

"The original Lucifer was to be a five year old boy, but he died in an accident before filming had begun. His place was taken by Bobby Beausoleil, a former guitarist with the group Love. Beausoleil was fired from the movie after a prolonged altercation with Anger, and left taking most of the completed film with him. As a symbol of protest Anger inserted a full page R.I.P. notice for himself in the New York Village Voice. Two years later Beausoleil was facing a sentence for life imprisonment for the murder after falling under the sickening spell of the high priest of gore, Charlie Manson. With the little footage remained from the Beausoleil episode shaped another film, "Invocation of my Demon Brother", with a synthesizer soundtrack by Mick Jagger. Jagger was evidently taken with Anger's work (indeed Anger claims it was their conversations which inspired Jagger to write "Sympathy for the Devil") and agreed to take the part of Lucifer. He backed down before shooting began, however, apparently fearing that the Satanic aura he had once sought to cultivate was becoming to tangible for comfort. He place was taken by brother Chris, but an on-set row with Anger led to Jagger's dismissal. Eventually a Middlesbrough steel worker named Leslie Huggins was recruited for the part, and with Marianne Faithfull and Donald Cammel (author of "Performance") also taking principle roles, filming began."

[Healthy Merking]

His last words were “I am perplexed…”

that says it all

he aint a role model

but i tip my cap to him

PEACE

[Healthy Merking]

...

frustrated or not

i guess in the end he was a knucklehead tho