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Post by Healthy Merking on Nov 12, 2004 14:24:32 GMT -5
PEACE
uhhhhh... am i seeing things or are LUCIFER/THE DEVIL and JUSTICE both representations of the same element?
if JUSTICE is that which refines and blindly balances the scale
and LUCIFER is the bringer of the light
does that suggest that they are basically the same or is there a subtle difference that i am missing here?
PEACE
please ADD ON
how come SHAQ isn't carrying miami yet?
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Post by =M97= on Nov 12, 2004 14:35:19 GMT -5
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Post by Healthy Merking on Nov 12, 2004 17:45:34 GMT -5
BINGO BANGO BONGO
PEACE M
thats what im talkin about
see i dont know whether its that people dont want this to be the case
but it is so mind boggling to come to these realizations after having been fed any sort of religious background
it is almost like being told that you were adopted when you are 45
or that your wife of 20 years is a man
or that there is no santa claus
getting back to the point:
we can safely say that
LUCIFER
JUSTICE
SATAN
JESUS
are all metaphors of the same entity/thing/being
the only other point of view that i have come to on CHRIST is that he is chillin in the lounge and SATAN is the bro at the door checking ID - but they are cool with each other and politic when SATAN's shift is over
it's a bird
it's a plane
it's life
PEACE
PLEASE ADD ON
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Post by =M97= on Nov 12, 2004 19:46:01 GMT -5
Peace LHX,
I just added WAAAY more to that thread. Thanks for the inspiration.
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Post by Healthy Merking on Nov 13, 2004 7:36:04 GMT -5
PEACE TAM
i like it
i like it
let's break it down here tho:
you go thru LUCIFER/JUSTICE
he measures your shit (sees if you still got ego)
if you don't - then you get your YESHUA stamp on the hand
if you ARE still tussling with ego (minors!) LUCIFER/JUSTICE sends you away - you are still inflicted with SATAN/EGO
which is fine - just means the fruit needs some more ripening
taking it a step further
may we suggest that LUCIFER and SATAN are nonetheless the same as it is LUCIFER'S familiarity with ego that allows him to be such a good judge??
6 is his limitation
because at 7 he joins his buddy in the back??
PEACE
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Post by CIVILISON on Nov 13, 2004 21:57:02 GMT -5
Justice must be the enforcement of Divine Law.
What is the etymology of "Lucifer"? What exactly does it imply?
Is this notion based upon the universal law that no things have qualities of themselves? Only when they are juxtaposed with other entities, they gain qualities. In other words, quality does not exist without opposition (polar extremes). It is Yin & Yang.
Is Satan on one and Christ on the other side of the coin? Can Lucifer be representative of both?
Peace to the Builders!
I-Son
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Post by SAMURAI36 on Nov 15, 2004 19:03:44 GMT -5
I've always been curious how "LUCIFER" became synonomous with "THE DEVIL"......
M's link sheds some light on the subject, but something is still amiss......
Add-On!!
PEACE
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Post by Healthy Merking on Nov 15, 2004 20:46:03 GMT -5
hmmmmmmm
that is a real contradiction of devils
i reckon it may be possible that the doorman tries to play one last trick on you before allowing you in??
from what i can see the only way to fully overcome oppression of the devil is to embrace the devil
do we agree on this?
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Post by contrastiktion on Nov 17, 2004 13:19:37 GMT -5
if John Allegro, James Arthur, and www.gnosticmedia.com Those guys are right, its pretty obvious why the two are the same. BUT the central theme here seems to be SACRAFICE... of ego, or for it peace |
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Post by =M97= on Nov 17, 2004 14:44:12 GMT -5
JOHN 3:16 -
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
We've all seen this verse. It's everywhere. Whenever you see Christians grouped together there will always be signs plastered with this verse...
But what about ...
JOHN 3:14 & 15 -
14 - And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 - That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Again... was it not the serpent who tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden?
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Post by Healthy Merking on Nov 17, 2004 16:43:35 GMT -5
PEACE
uhhhhhh
this shit is so ridiculously impactful i may never be able to speak to an '85er's face ever again
how did this go on for so long?
to think that from something so good came this
a really fucked up version of something good
at least it is colorful
PEACE
LOVE ALLAH
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Post by Blindswordsman on Nov 17, 2004 18:27:17 GMT -5
What is now known and seen as a symbol for Satan was once used as a symbol of justice, balance , light & darkness. That symbol is the Goat headed creature called Baphomet. The Knights Templar were said to have spit upon the cross as they aquired much truth as well as wealth ( which they stole ) during the crusades and discovered the bogus nature of the crucifix. They told these things after they were tortured by order of King Phillip of France. Amongst their riches were pendants and other artifacts that boasted images of this man, woman and animal hybrid. The church blackballed the image ever since. I compare it to some of the HipHop artist that drop jewels in their cryptic slang. Symbolism has always been a way to translate messages to those who were meant to recieve it.
Eliphas Levi ( a 19th century occultist ) described Baphomet as such:
"The goat on the frontispiece carries the sign of the pentagram on the forehead, with one point at the top, a symbol of light, his two hands forming the sign of hermeticism, the one pointing up to the white moon of the Quabbalic Chesed, the other pointing down to the black one of Geburah. This sign expresses the perfect harmony of mercy with justice. His one arm is female, the other male like the ones of the androgyn of Khunrath, the attributes of which we had to unite with those of our goat because he is one and the same symbol. The flame of intelligence shining between his horns is the magic light of the universal balance, the image of the soul elevated above matter, as the flame, whilst being tied to matter, shines above it. The ugly beast's head expresses the horror of the sinner, whose materially acting, solely responsible part has to bear the punishment exclusively; because the soul is insensitive according to its nature and can only suffer when it materializes. The rod standing instead of genetials symbolizes eternal life, the body covered with scales the water, the semi-circle above it the atmosphere, the feathers following above the volatile. Humanity is represented by the two breasts and the androgyne arms of this sphinx of the occult sciences."
I hope this helps.
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Post by contrastiktion on Nov 17, 2004 19:06:24 GMT -5
 thanks blind... good info i never noticed the caduceus in his lap... very interesting symbology there |
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Post by Healthy Merking on Nov 17, 2004 19:36:03 GMT -5
is this gonna be on the news to-nite?
PEACE TO THE GODS
guerrero's first year in the sun and he's the mvp
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Post by Healthy Merking on Nov 18, 2004 13:28:28 GMT -5
PEACE Tam
it must represent kundalini
just like kundalini represents the devil
does that make the pineal gland more like lucifer then??
PEACE
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