Post by jonnygemini on Feb 4, 2005 16:45:04 GMT -5
PEACE
my journey through esoterism soemtimes seems like a metaphoric infinitely layered onion...each time I peel back a layer thinking I am getting closer to the source...there are many layers to go.
I posted earlier how my path has led through the dry streams/black lodges of western esoteric thought...specifically LaVey's Church of Satan, Crowley's OTO and Freemasonry which I recently disassociated myself from. I have been reading as much of Weor's gnostic writing as possible since Tamahu posted this site:
www.gnosis-usa.com
Then I stumbled across this build and read Lighthouse & Sam7's thoughts on Weor...Now I am a little confused...Can anyone speak of these ideas a little?
1) Sam7 said-
And see, that's the thing for me.......It seems that WEOR and others apply the same approach to these concepts as HITLER did.......Bouncing around from thought to thought, missing the bigger picture, leaving key aspects of the TRUTH out, and ultimately using it as a means to destructive and/or detrimental ends.
What specifically is Weor leaving out about the TRUTH? The Kemetian origins of Gnosis?
SAM7 went on-
His lack of historical, cultural, and even spiritual understanding of the concepts in question (SET/TYPHON, KHNUMU, etc), in lieu of talking over said ignorance with eloquent spiritualism is the prime reason why these "new age" dudes are rarely, if ever taken seriously, even when they might provide some relevant info.
He formed a whole perspective around a FALSE NOTION (that KHNUMU is SET), and he had YET to clarify any TRUE understanding regarding the "DEVIL".........That is the dangerousness that I spoke about; this is done in virtually EVERY spiritual system that the masses have been x-posed to, all throughout history.
To cut to the chase...SAM7 recs that Tam...
ELIMINATE THE MIDDLE MEN, AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE SOURCE.
There is a difference in studying "ALL", and acknowledging the SOURCE.
Even the "ALL" has a source.....It's interesting that none of the above ASS-CLOWNS ever bear witness to just what that is.
Well, shine some light on my darkness, please...
Where can the ORIGINAL knowledge be foudn today?
Metu Neter? Ausar Auset?
I am no longer interested in joining any groups, but I would immensely appreciate directions towards texts or study aids that other have found legit
I read those lessons by Elijah Muhammed someone posted too...even if it takes me 35-50 years of study to cleanse the devil samskaras out of my head, I'm game...but could someone break this down for me in layman's terms...Where to begin?
One more thing...Is the chief error of Theosphists/occultists/initiations without dissolution of ego that they fail to cite the source of their doctrine or that they are ignorant of it?
Also if one is not "original" themselves due to their ancestry, can they ever expect to overstand the "original teachings"
Finally, more of a unfinished thought than a question, but...Is there some sort of overstanding/verification of the TRUTH about history, religion, encoded in our DNA...I am having a really hard time understanding why I am so drawn to the ideas on this discussion board, specifically when parts of the ideology would cast me as a white devil flirting with the serpent...Yet, I do not feel my inellect or rationalization kicking in to dispute this concept...Should I take this as evidence of its veracity?
my journey through esoterism soemtimes seems like a metaphoric infinitely layered onion...each time I peel back a layer thinking I am getting closer to the source...there are many layers to go.
I posted earlier how my path has led through the dry streams/black lodges of western esoteric thought...specifically LaVey's Church of Satan, Crowley's OTO and Freemasonry which I recently disassociated myself from. I have been reading as much of Weor's gnostic writing as possible since Tamahu posted this site:
www.gnosis-usa.com
Then I stumbled across this build and read Lighthouse & Sam7's thoughts on Weor...Now I am a little confused...Can anyone speak of these ideas a little?
1) Sam7 said-
And see, that's the thing for me.......It seems that WEOR and others apply the same approach to these concepts as HITLER did.......Bouncing around from thought to thought, missing the bigger picture, leaving key aspects of the TRUTH out, and ultimately using it as a means to destructive and/or detrimental ends.
What specifically is Weor leaving out about the TRUTH? The Kemetian origins of Gnosis?
SAM7 went on-
His lack of historical, cultural, and even spiritual understanding of the concepts in question (SET/TYPHON, KHNUMU, etc), in lieu of talking over said ignorance with eloquent spiritualism is the prime reason why these "new age" dudes are rarely, if ever taken seriously, even when they might provide some relevant info.
He formed a whole perspective around a FALSE NOTION (that KHNUMU is SET), and he had YET to clarify any TRUE understanding regarding the "DEVIL".........That is the dangerousness that I spoke about; this is done in virtually EVERY spiritual system that the masses have been x-posed to, all throughout history.
To cut to the chase...SAM7 recs that Tam...
ELIMINATE THE MIDDLE MEN, AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE SOURCE.
There is a difference in studying "ALL", and acknowledging the SOURCE.
Even the "ALL" has a source.....It's interesting that none of the above ASS-CLOWNS ever bear witness to just what that is.
Well, shine some light on my darkness, please...
Where can the ORIGINAL knowledge be foudn today?
Metu Neter? Ausar Auset?
I am no longer interested in joining any groups, but I would immensely appreciate directions towards texts or study aids that other have found legit
I read those lessons by Elijah Muhammed someone posted too...even if it takes me 35-50 years of study to cleanse the devil samskaras out of my head, I'm game...but could someone break this down for me in layman's terms...Where to begin?
One more thing...Is the chief error of Theosphists/occultists/initiations without dissolution of ego that they fail to cite the source of their doctrine or that they are ignorant of it?
Also if one is not "original" themselves due to their ancestry, can they ever expect to overstand the "original teachings"
Finally, more of a unfinished thought than a question, but...Is there some sort of overstanding/verification of the TRUTH about history, religion, encoded in our DNA...I am having a really hard time understanding why I am so drawn to the ideas on this discussion board, specifically when parts of the ideology would cast me as a white devil flirting with the serpent...Yet, I do not feel my inellect or rationalization kicking in to dispute this concept...Should I take this as evidence of its veracity?